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Storyboard Programs - you haz that? (comment pls) 

35%
15 deviants said Photoshop - here's how i do it!
35%
15 deviants said I use scraps of toilet paper and scan them! OldSkool!
14%
6 deviants said Other?
9%
4 deviants said ToonBoom Storyboard - and i feel _____ about it
5%
2 deviants said Other non storyboard specific program
2%
1 deviant said A fantastic free program i have! heres a link so you can share the benefits!

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:iconyetska:
~Yetska Jan 18, 2010
toon boom storyboard, and i don't really like it .

i'd rather just use paper and pensil, and then scan and edit the thing with photoshop
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`Marker-Guru Jan 19, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Had I the storage space and scanner hooked up here, I'd probably use that but it's way to tedious to scan.

What is it you arent liking about it?
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:iconyetska:
~Yetska Jan 19, 2010
i have to use a wacom to draw in it
I try, but i've noticed i get better and faster drawings if i just do it on paper and scan them in.

Maybe if i really forced myself to keep using it I might like it better.
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`Marker-Guru Jan 19, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
I had to force myself for a while. Having the Intuos has helped a lot because I can swap nibs to get more drag on it and stuff to simulate the feeling of pencil and paper (or markers or charcoal or whatever).

nothing will ever replace paper and pencil for me though! in general I'll always prefer that.
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~Lily-L-Bell Jan 18, 2010
I do the poor man's version of the Nickelodeon way! I take a sheet of computer paper and a shit house full of sticky notes, and I stick a sticky note to the page (the page holds them together and keeps them organized) and then I draw the character, and place another sticky note over top of it to show the movement... and I do that until I want the camera angle to change. In that case instead of putting the next sticky note ON TOP of the last one, I stick it to the page next to the first camera angle's piles. This way you can do a good chunk of story board and keep it VERY organized. Sure, you may end up with a handful of sheets of paper covered in sticky notes, but it's neater, more organized, fits in a standard folder, and it's easier to see in sequence than sticking sticky notes on the wall in the order of their appearance. Plus, with the ability to put it in a folder you can take your story board with you anywhere instead of it being stuck to a wall, or made of a million sheets of LARGE paper, or as a software file, because then you have to worry, if you're on another computer: "can this computer open the file type?" "Can I view it the way I want to?" and so on and so on.

That's just my method, and I probably only do it because I find drawing traditionally with a pencil in hand is easiest for me. I'm not sure if having a physical or digital story board is easier for the animator, sorry. I have done story board, and I can paint back grounds, but I'm not very good with animation and really have no practice in it so I wouldn't be sure if my method is any help. I just personally find it to be easier.
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`Marker-Guru Jan 18, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Golly thats a neat method! I'll keep it in mind for my smaller (and not widescreen!) productions. I think that would be pretty effective for my short film :)
my film is feature length so there is space issues with that for me, or I'd try it XD
I dont have space to store a feature length storyboard. i'm already sitting on a pile of boxes and paper :B

but ya, for a 43 second film like I'm doing now that would be great :D
Thanks :D
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~Lily-L-Bell Jan 18, 2010
Yeah, it was a short animation that I'd done the story board for, granted, halfway through animation the project was scrapped by the animator so there's nothing concrete left of what I worked on. But I'm glad I was able to help some, even if it doesn't work for a feature length project.

My sister ~KichiMiangra and I are working on a feature length Faeries Bible movie, the thing is she's doing the story board for it instead of me because she's the writer, (granted, she didn't write the script, I'm going to have to transcribe the stuff in her narly hand writing to a formal, readable script when I do the casting and directing the cast, but that could be a year or two from now depending on how long it takes her to finish this damn thing >> ) and it's a much longer and complex story so it's easier for her to just do it for her animation than for her to tell me what she wants, and then have to stand over my shoulder to get it. So she uses a three subject notebook and divides it up into 18 boxes: (example of one of the pages: [link] )

The problem is that KC is a comic artist and so her story board tends to look more like a comic spread, instead of my way of doing it which looks more like a crappy animatic. Granted, KC's way will work for us because we both know how her mind works, but if we had an animation crew it'd be hard.
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`Marker-Guru Jan 18, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Having the comic artists background for storyboarders is a huge asset. I took a comic production course before I went to animation school so my storyboards are always really informative, which is good because i generally half ass everything else! Ha Ha!
The comic way actually makes it easy to scan and cut apart the panels for animatics. I've got templates from a few websites (animation Meat has some too [link] ) but I still cant be bothered to scan. I'm so ... unhappy about the idea of scanning HA HA HA! Since I learned I cant refund the program that has wronged me, I think I'll end up drawing in photoshop and importing into the toon boom storyboard program.

Your film sounds neat, how long have you been working on it so far?
nice to see someone else taking on a really huge film project :D
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:iconlily-l-bell:
~Lily-L-Bell Jan 18, 2010
Well, we're a really small team. XD But most the time people don't see the hand I have in developing the story. Right now Faeries Bible is just a webcomic, but KC and I have been working on it for years now. Actually, the 23 is the birthday of the first Faeries Bible page. I wanna say it's been four or five years now, but five sounds almost too much, so we'll say four cause I can't remember. But my role has always been more of a design thing. I designed the original character designs, and though, yes, they're veered from those original designs with time, I still consider myself the designer. And actually, when we started the female elf character didn't have a name, and so KC named her Lily, after me, as a thank you for the designing. I also help out with the plot concept. Me and KC just walk in circles around our living room discussing the world, the races, the societies and the individual characters and so we come up with everything together. We knew we wanted to make a movie for it about two years ago, and I was charged with coming up with the premise of the movie. (Not the plot NO! XD Too much work, KC just needed something to jump off of XD )right before school got out for the summer last year KC began the story boarding that I showed you. I know it's kind of backwards but our plan is to have the story board done, and then I have to transcribe it into an honest to god script and cast actors for it. So far I've not have a big hand, and the animation I won't have a big hand in either, seeing as I'll only be painting the backgrounds, the animation and inking will be handled by KC and my two other siblings, then any special effects and filters will be added by my other sister: ~BlackDoll-Hiku but I've been put in charge of all "people" work. I have to find actors and people you can make music because we'd like at least one original melody for Faeries Bible and not all canned, pod safe songs. None of my other siblings are "people" persons. XD
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`Marker-Guru Jan 18, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Thats awesome, you actually sound a lot like how me and my sister `misskittyoooo started out :)
my film ( #Conflagration-Film ) was started as a comic in Feb 1997 and slowly Kitty has kinda of removed herself from it but we still kinda work together on most things. the characters are all still based on the ones we had when we started.
Like yours it started a a comic,. then changed to a different comic, then changed to episodes now its finally settled on the feature film it is now.

Right now I'm working on a 43 second short film for `misskittyoooo's comic book (published #Daqueran ) as a fun little side project but now that I've upgraded my studio to have a more powerful system I can get back into animation of my main feature film and stuff :)

We actually have a group for our little studio as well #GurukittyStudios.

I'd love to follow your project, and I'll offer you any of my resources to help you out! I know its really hard to find things like voice actors and sound people.

my friend just created a group for voice actors as well #VoiceActing
also keep an eye on ^deviantartfilm as well, they post things like people offering services like voice and music :)

is #Geo-Terra-Studio your guys group?
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